Hi Guys,
I have seen lot of traffic on my blog searching for "Indian Doctors in US" of course which is the main theme for my Blog!
I started this blog just out of fancy keeping myself in mind who is obviously an Indian doctor.
I started my life searching here and there how to get into US medical system.Today I wanna post a blog what are our chances of getting into this system.
If you are a Medical student you can do electives here.In any branch you want and which is like doing our Internship/House surgency in India.but just doing only selective departmenmts which help in our chosen career.For e.g., if you want to pursue Internal Medicine...You can do any IM related i.e., Gastro or cardio "Elective" in any med school.These days getting electives are also getting tough.Some are paid and some are non-paid.Once you are done you will be having hands-on clinical experience which helps you in smooth transition into residency.But you wont get any degree here that you have done electives but,Some LORs(Letter Of Recommendations).
If you are a Physician ,have done Internship and got MBBS degree,you are not eligible to do electives in US.
OR
If you are a MD or MS Physician the fate is same but here comes the option of PRACTICE in US
Residency is what we call post graduate training in India or simply PG
In Order to practice in US u need to get state license which requires at least 2-3 yrs of "Accredited American Graduate medical education"(RESIDENCY) according to AMA(American Medical Education) found ...HERE
and if u r Board Certified it adds to authenticity and value ...!
Basically to practice in US one need NOT ! be BOARD CERTIFIED according to certiFACT"Board certification is a voluntary process and over 80% of the physicians in the U.S. are board certified; however, a physician is licensed by the state to “practice medicine and surgery” and board certification is not a requirement for licensure. A licensed physician may practice in whatever area of medical interest they have and can legally hold themselves out to be practicing in that field of interest without necessarily having obtained a residency or fellowship providing advanced training in that area. Board certification, however, means that the physician’s skill and knowledge in the specialty/subspecialty has been examined and tested and meets standardized requirements"
"Most International Medical Graduates need to complete some required training in this country before they are able to take a particular board’s exam if all the postgraduate training was completed in another country. Exceptions are made and vary with each board. (Some boards may accept Canadian and/or United Kingdom residencies. Call the Member Board for further information on this.)"
also
"If a doctor is "licensed to practice medicine" does that mean he/she is certified?
No. Obtaining a medical license and being certified as a medical specialist by an ABMS Member Board are two different and separate processes. A license, legally required in order to treat patients, is issued and required by the state or territory in which a doctor practices medicine. A specialty certificate is issued by a medical specialty certifying board, which is valid nationwide. Although certification is not required for an individual physician to practice medicine, most hospitals and managed care organizations require that at least a certain percentage of their staff be, " board certified." Today, approximately 89% of licensed physicians are certified by one or more ABMS Member Boards."
But I came to know that if you have done residency here,You can start practicing here as affiliated with a hospital called "HOSPITALIST" and you will be given 3yrs time to clear the board exam.
At the beginning of residency people apply for Initial Medical licnsure and its requirements vary by state and if you are an IMG
In order to get this initial licensure, you have to finish USMLE Step 3 and which in turn requires the clearance of step1,2(CK ,CS).
For clearing STEP3 the criteria vary by state.some require at least one year of residency training,where as some don't need any special requirements.
So in order to practice here,you need to finish all the USMLE steps includin Step3.
More info can be found here
This is what mentioned on FSMB(www.fsmb.org)
"In the United States and its territories, a license to practice medicine is a privilege granted only by the individual licensing authority (i.e., "state medical board") of the various jurisdictions. All decisions regarding acceptance of USMLE results and/or licensure eligibility are made by the individual state medical boards of the United States.
It is important to note that eligibility to sit for the USMLE Step 3 for a specific state medical board does not automatically signify your eligibility for medical licensure in that jurisdiction.
To obtain complete licensure information, you should contact the state medical board directly where you intend to seek your medical license. The FSMB provides a listing of all state medical boards and their contact information."
Here is a sample Licensure for Alabama state http://www.albme.org/Documents/540-X-3%20ER.pdf
and the website is http://www.albme.org/
Most of them require the residency in US.So ,for them Indian PG is not valid.
But here is an exception for some fellowships like Ophthalmic Oncology and Emergency Care (i dont have the complete list and it will be on Individual hospital websites for how to get the list see below)where you can directly apply for them.you don't have to go through all the USMLE steps.Even you dont have to go through all the ERAS process.(For ERAS go through my other blogs).
Once you are done you can use that training in your home country but cannot practice herer.
For these list of programs,
1.go to http://www0.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/srch/
2.select "Choose specialty"
3.select the "Subspecialty/fellowship" you are interested in
4.select the "Choose Location" select the states you wanted
5.Click on "Optional Criteria"
in National Resident Matching Program: select DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN NRMP
in ERAS drop down select DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN ERAS
These are the programs have their own criteria like "atleast 3 yrs of PG training back in home country"
Now you have to contact the individual programs.
Indian Doctors who came to US back in 70's 80's have done radiology and some competetive specialties.Now its real tough even to get into residency.
Those who want to do residency and then Fellowship...read my other blogs..
Hope this Helps
Pavan
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*i've done background research for myself.It may be incomplete or may have some flaws but for most part its how the system in US is.If you have any doubts or comments post them.Once I start my residency I will know more abt the system!
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hi sir,
i am an indian house surgeon doing my internship at KGH vizag, after completing my mbbs course at a private college. what is the procedure to get into a residency program in internal medicine in the us? my email is sharath.alamuri@gmail.com. please walk me through the process.
Help! We have an intern (from India)in our Family Medicine Residency that is barely performing at a 3rd year medical student. WE might have to let him go. Is there a residency program in the US he could go to learn and practice dr/patient communication skills? Medical knowledge is not all bad, but he cannot put it together with a real patient.
Dear Sir
Sir I wanted to ask a question about my current situation , I have finished my medical school from AIMS( Amrita Institute of Medical Science) , Cochin , India in 2010.
I have done a research in oncology division , and have presented it in a conference.I have also worked with a few students from NYU for a collaborated research , which was recently presented in the Washington Breast cancer conference.
I am interested to do my residency in the US , I gave my step 1 on dec 2010 and got a score of 80. I want to join internal medicine and peruse my dream in oncology.
the reason why I am writing this mail is to ask your advise on how to get around this , as I understand with a low score my chances of matching in residency is reduced, but with a higher score on step 2 can I reverse the damage done?
I would be really great full if you could advise me on this.
Hello sir...i wanna do fellowship in usa...can u please help me with what is needed for it?
Thanks for the information. Really a helpful post for people who are looking for doing medical certification in US. Keep posting more helpful posts like the same.
Hi sir,
Iam planning to take mph course from us can i clear my steps doing mph course parallely.Is it anyway advantageous than b1/b2 visa.
please let me know if there are any opportunities for mph in united states.
Hello doctor,
I am a Malaysian indian, however i am really interested to live and work in USA in future. So my parents decided to send me to American University of Antigua, where all the USMLE exams will be taught internally. So doctor, do you think I will get a job there, in USA after finishing my residency? Your respond is kindly appreciated. thank you so much.
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Hi thanks for the information.I am currently doing my post graduation in MD Physiology and am planning to come to the United states on a L2 work visa? Do I need to clear any exams in order to be able to work there as an assistant professor or a research scientist? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You
Hello Sir.. Im a med student from Mumbai... I had some doubts about USMLE Residency scenes. So could i have your email id so that you could help me... Thanks..Regards
Hello Sir,
I would like to know what are the chances of international students of getting residency in the states. I am studying to obtain the MBBS degree, however I would like to know whether my chances of getting residency are decreased or not? Sorry for the inconvenience. Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you!
Hi,
It is not that extremely difficult to get into residency.TO that matter IM would be the most commonly preferred by IMGs and is the tough one to get into.You need to get good scores in Step ), CK and CS. also try to get some USCE and you will have chances.Remember I am also an Indian!
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I haven't found your email, so I am posting here. I'm wondering, please, if you know any US board certified/eligible critical care medicine physicians who who might want to work in India for a very high salary. We have immediate and ongoing permanent (not locums) eICU positions in various cities.
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i have done md pediatrics nd have 1 yr experience.want to do neonatology ellowship in US.PLEASE GUIDE.how to go about it.my email is dvndrjdhv@yahoo.com
Hi,
Fellowships in US most of the times need US residency. So, Is neonatology. i doubt if you can do neonatology without US Pediatrics residency.
pavan
Hi,
I am an Indian & have 5 years experience in surgical pathology.
Please let me know if there is a short course fellowship programme in U.S.
hello sir,
I have just cleared my 12th std from maharashtra state board with no mathematics in boards. I will soon get admission into some government college in vidharbha region. I wanted to know if there are any chances of getting into any medical colleges in the USA and how for both mbbs ug and pg courses. Please guide me further. Looking forward for your reply.
Kiara,
Getting into medical school here is very expensive ( unless you are ready to spend atleast 1 crore rupees) here it costs $400,000 at an averege. You need to take MCAT and need to get good score in that. Because of the cost and inability to get into US schools, Most of teh American citizens finish med school in either caribbean schools ( west indies) or in India itself. i would suggest to finish MBBS there and apply for Residency. i also suggest you to go to a local medical college and talk to someone who is coming to US for residency.That would be helpful.Also look up on internet in various forums like studentdoctornetwork etc.,
Good luck
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Hello sir,
I have done post graduation in ophthalmology from india and i have few questions like..
1.What is FICO exam and by passing that how much time we can do fellowship or observership in usa??
2.if we want to join short term fellowship in usa then what is the procedure for that?
Thanks
Hello sir i have done dch ( diploma in child health) from india and now i want to get migrated to US. i am also planning to clear USMLE but i just wanted to know that what are my chances if i score good in the exam as i dont have exyernship or even observership experience from there. Can i still apply for match and hope to get the reisdency there or what should i do. I know its too early but i wanted to be preinformed so that i can guide and prepare myself accordingly instead of get frustrated midway. Kindly guide me what and how tp do
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I wanted to know something before i start my medical career.I'm an indain and wanted to know that if I completed my m.b.b.s in india , will i be able to pactise it in USA and if i do my mbbs in us then will i be allowed to practise it in india? Does american mbbs degree has more worth in india than indian mbbs degree?
Hello did u continue your pg in uk through direct admission or PLAB?
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Hello Sir
I am here with some urgent queries.
I am now a third year student of MBBS from Kolkata .After completing my MBBS i will go for PG(In Medicine or Pediatric)from India.If I want to do job in USA after my PG then what are the steps do i need to do?
It will be helpful if you kindly reply me at my mail id in details.
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Thanks and Regards
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Hi sir,
I happen to complete my internship in march 2014..fm gandhi med coll hyd.applied for electives...
Im very aspirant to take up surgical fields in my residency in us ppl say its tough there to get into..will dey not take in students based on merit of mle score....what shud b da score for surgical program??
If I do my pg here in surgery...what r da chances of getting into fellowship in us...pls give in ur opinion as in which is the best option.
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hello sir...i am an indian currently doing 2 nd year of my mbbs from sms medical college rajasthan....i wanted to know what is the proceduce of doing pg from us.Do I nedd to prepare from now onwards.What would be the aproximate cost??Also do i nedd to dive any teat here in india prior to that??...thanks in advance!!
hello sir...i am an indian currently doing 2 nd year of my mbbs from sms medical college rajasthan....i wanted to know what is the proceduce of doing pg from us.Do I need to prepare from now onwards.What would be the aproximate cost??Also do i need to dive any test here in india prior to that??...thanks in advance!!
respected sir,also..could you do a post on mentioning your story of getting into US.Which exams you had to give and which Us hospital you did your residency from.
Hi sir, I'm doing diploma in Ophthalmology in India in a deemed university. Is it possible to do fellowships in Ophthalmology in US with this degree?
Hi I ve completed my MD obstetrics and gynaecology from govt medical college Nagpur Maharashtra . After that I immediately joined Maharashtra medical services and working as a gynaecologist since last 19years . I am planning to get married to us citizen in California ... What are the easy options available for me if I want to take up job in any medical and research related field . Thanks
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I have completed MD Gen.Med from India.I would like to study Gasteroenterology in US.I dont wanna work there.Just to study.Could you suggest me some good colleges for that?
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I am doing my 3rd year from Karnataka... I want to do my post graduation from US in obg ... Sir can u suggest.. How should I get there and approx how much will be the cost...And is it better in India or abroad
Can someone help to understand the job scope in US with MD Physiology from India? Not interested in practicing, so hope USMLE is not required. What about the teaching jobs in US? or What are the jobs we can do with this degree in US?
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I am US citizen currently studying in India. I have got admission at Pravara Medical College in Maharastra. After my MBBS I want to pursue residency in USA. Does it matter from which college u do your MBBS. Does US looks for grads from particular college or really it doesn't matter as long as it MCI recognized.
Hello Sir..
I'm a medical graduate from India (done with MBBS 4 months ago) currently preparing for usmle..but have been having second thoughts since I'm interested in Dermatology and we all know getting into Dermat residency in US for an IMG is impossible. So I'm starting to consider masters programs..which courses will be suitable for me? I'm not interested in MAH. Thanks
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